What's Worth Being Misunderstood For? with Eliza

I went into this conversation a little obsessed with the way Eliza Struthers-Jobin, aka Eliza SJ, makes things. I tend to decide what something is supposed to become and then grip the wheel until I get it there. Eliza makes art almost the opposite way. She creates the conditions. A few rules. Some constraints. A little randomness. Then she lets the thing show her what it wants to be. I called her a gardener. You can’t pry open a flower and tell it how to bloom. Somewhere along the way, though...