Jakarta EE and MicroProfile--Siblings, Cousins or Twins

An airhacks.fm conversation with Alasdair Nottingham ( @nottycode ) about: Jakarta EE , MicroProfile , package name changes, OpenLiberty implements MicroProfile API, uses SmallRye for reactive messaging , migration to smallrye is not trivial, reactive messaging comes with netty and vert.x assumptions, Jakarta EE and MicroProfile - merging or separating, a single dependency would be nice, three camps: Jakarta EE, MicroProfile vendors and the developers, Jakarta EE is more stable, MicroProfile is more innovative, MicroProfile is not an incubator, passionated discussions about SOAP, JAX-RPC is more popular, than JAX-WS, deprecation is not about removal, ConfigSource implementation does not support CDI, MicroProfile brings added value to Jakarta EE, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE can co-exist together, monoliths on kubernetes are valid use cases, poor vs. rich and thin vs. fat, xdoclet - the annotation predecessor, EJB 2 were not that bad, Alasdair Nottingham on twitter: @nottycode