Clarence Chio: Hacking, Risk x AI, Building with Pragmatism, and the Fine Line Between Delusion and Persistence

From a hacker's perspective, what are some of the most overlooked - yet critical - problems in tech? In this episode, Clarence Chio shares his journey from giving DEFCON talks on adversarial AI before it was cool, to building two startups at the intersection of risk management and AI. We dive into his experiences hacking alongside white, red, and black hats in an abandoned warehouse near the Kremlin, to the quiet evolution of vendor management, and how the meaning of "work" is evolving as te...