173. Michael Shermer Debate on UFOs, Leslie Kean, Mark Rodeghier

First up, Mark Rodeghier & Leslie Kean discuss a (Very) Local SETI: The Launch of a New UFO Science (ufodata.net) and what this means for collecting new data, then Dr. Michael Shermer talks about his skeptical views on UFOs, and abductions and much more. Support the show to join in for hour two to hear him debate Roswell and the Phoenix Lights. Michael Shermer’s website: www.michaelshermer.com CONTACT AND SUPPORT 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month: https://www.: .com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO 🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More): https://tinyurl.com/mrybmnwb *Martin's New TESLA Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TeslaTakesTheWheel 📬 FREE Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more: http://eepurl.com/LPHKD 🌐 Our Website: https://podcastufo.com 📱 Follow us on Social Media: Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFO Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO