Data Contracts Are For Software Engineers, Not Just Data Teams w/ Mark Freeman and Chad Sanderson
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Data Contracts Are For Software Engineers, Not Just Data Teams w/ Mark Freeman and Chad Sanderson

Dec 3, 2025
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In this episode, I sit down with Mark Freeman and Chad Sanderson (Gable.ai) to discuss the release of their new O’Reilly book, Data Contracts: Developing Production-Grade Pipelines at Scale. They dive deep into the chaotic journey of writing a 350-page book while simultaneously building a venture-backed startup. The conversation takes a sharp turn into the evolution of Data Contracts. While the concept started with data engineers, Mark and Chad explain why they pivoted their focus to software engineers. They argue that software engineers are facing a "Data Lake Moment, "prioritizing speed over craftsmanship, resulting in massive technical debt and integration failures. Gable: https://www.gable.ai/

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Joe Reis
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