

Trade Tales
Why Ariel Okin believes all clients deserve ‘unfailing optimism’
Nov 19, 2025
57:10
E145
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About this episode
Ariel Okin on why her firm doesn’t shoot every project, how a switch to hourly billing has made the firm more profitable and how her presence in the project process is changing as her businesses grow.
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- Author
- Business of Home
- Show Type
- full
- Audio Format
- audio/mpeg